INTERVIEW: Shaun Berke

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“Without chaos there could not be a murmuration of starlings.”



June 27th, 2015  by M. Elise Hill

Silhouettes of palm trees darkened the balmy Los Angeles evening, the first time I made acquaintance with Shaun Berke. Somehow out of place in all the technicolor, is a man of keen intelligence and a Rasputin-esque elegance, with darkly devious paintings that feel at once earthy and ethereal. His palette is wintry; his figures shrouded in mist. Indeed, Berke himself seemed to emerge from the mists of a Tarkovsky film as he greeted us at the front door of his mid-century apartment, an air of understated humility and refinement about him. He had prepared a three course meal for myself and my partner and we stayed up late into the night talking, drinking wine and pouring through his stacks of painting tomes, surrounded by his easel, chat noir, and an altar-like gathering of talismanic objects. 

Berke’s solo exhibition Sancrosanct was on display at the time, at Los Angeles’ La Luz de Jesus gallery. His series of nun paintings displaces the holy sisters from their cloistered surroundings of flying buttresses and copal smoke and into the dust of a heathen wilderness. There they appear immersed in an ecstasy of the senses; naked flesh, the elements of nature, and ritualistic carnality.

In Sacrament, two figures with woven hands sink into a watery scene of penitence. In his Deathcrush, three veiled women draw water from a vessel, seemingly suspended in an apocalyptic landscape. The figures are reminiscent of the Norns, the Norse fates who are the deciders of men’s destinies, drawing holy water from the well of Urd.

M. : There are those who would consider the subject matter of your compositions to be edging on sacrilegious. From a contrary perspective, there is a reverent treatment of the human body, and I don’t mean in a bride-of-Christ way, but in a manner not usually portrayed by historical Christians and other iconoclasts of the female figure. The bodies are harmoniously possessing of both sensuality and spirituality. Does that tension between the natural and mystical inform your work?

Berke : Very astute, I’d say. I’m glad that you’ve been able to read the paintings. Generally I hear my paintings received as being lascivious only. But yes, my intention with the nun paintings has been to first capture the viewer, then to hold them so that they might have a chance to consider how humanism permeates conventions. In any case, sacrilege is relative. I have no trepidation about it.


Martyrs  by Shaun Berke, 2014

M. : What is your relationship to your nun paintings’ subject matter, to religious iconography, and to religion itself?

Berke : I’m very fond of the stories in all of the recorded religions. When I was thirteen, I was baptized. It was in the woods and I like water and the church man had perceived me as leading some day –pretty cool shit to hear when you’re a kid. Rituals are in our bones, very old. Religions are as many tongues speaking as many dialects. I like the sound of a librarian’s pantheism most of all.

M. : Plato postured that to depict nature is futile, even dangerous. For over a half- century the Art oligarchy has turned it’s collective Platonic nose up at such things as painting representationally. What challenges do you find yourself up against as a dangerous portrayer of human beauty?

Berke : The challenge is in weathering a storm that shreds at my soul; in being inundated with the tediousness of novelty; in being out of step with the trend forecast. However kind the people may be, engaging a scene so starkly disparate is difficult to say the least. Once, a mother said to her child, “follow your heart” and then that actually happened. It is as hard as it is rewarding.


M. : You’ve described your body of work thus far as “Gothic piety and Sienese humanism in a Venetian light, only with more chaos…” Is this concept of chaos significant to you? Do you believe there is potency to the idea of Chaos, in a theoretical sense, or in a magickal way?

Berke : Yes. Chaos is central and ubiquitous, the beginning and the end; it’s at the roots of mythology; it’s a natural law essential to our existence. Whatever lofty aesthetic I might strive for, chaos is a part of me, and so my work. I find it peaceful and beautiful. Without chaos there could not be a murmuration of starlings.


@shaunberke via Instagram


Fra Angelico’s Christ Crowned with Thorns, ca. 1438-39

M. : You’ve chosen to place yourself within the lineage of the Bellini-Titian school, or the Venetian School as it is sometimes known. Would you describe the school, and how you realized you fit within that tradition?

Berke : The Venetian School is a way of painting where feeling eclipses procedure. It is painting, not coloring. Exemplified in the difference between Titian and Michelangelo. The rift is as substantial as between Aristotle and Plato, and it continues to this day. It is an issue at the college. What is strange is that my affinity for Venetian painting turned out to be substantiated by a lineage of teachers. A teacher of mine connects me through the centuries back as far as Fra Angelico. I found the published pedigree tree and wrote to a fellow who welcomed me to the lineage! It sounds pretty cool but there are no secret meetings or anything…

M. : You tap into some old craft knowledge in order to make paintings which will withstand the test of time. I’ve also heard that trace amounts of bone, that enduring and primordial of human element, can be found in your pieces! Talk a bit about the tools and materials you employ, as well as your limited palette.

Berke : The materials are a fun thing for me. The palette, for example, can be a any number of surfaces. In considering which surface best serves the utility, I tried the variety of options. In the end, I discovered just how suitable a wheel is for a cart. So I went out and collected Moonwood to make a palette. It’s smooth like glass, light to hold, on hand to match color, and durable enough to not have a care. The materials don’t make the painting, but the woodgrain is so lovely it’s a sight worth maintaining.


Deathcrush  by Shaun Berke, 2014


The Gift & the Ghost  by Shaun Berke, 2013


Berke : The colors I am using expand from the Apelles palette to a bespoke earth-tone palette. For example, I keep a red ochre for its roots in cave painting. I gave each color hopelessly poetical names that reflect an aspect of their origin. So, amusingly: Bone Dust, Iron Ore, Roast Ore, Woods Marrow, Blood Ore, Iron Mud, Meadow Ore, Bone Oil, and Titan Powder.

M. : Briefly, you touched on the urge for Ritual being knitted into our nature as humans. Do any rituals bear weight in the way you do life; in the process by which you create your work?

Berke : Certainly. Mine are just the maintenances of a recluse. I feed on books, care for my familiar, and run around outside for lack of any meal to chase. Most importantly for me is the cycle of a daylight painting schedule. Nocturnal was a dream. Speaking of which, to sit on furs and drink ewe’s milk from a stone cup is part of some kind of process for me, it would seem. So there’s that.


@shaunberke via Instagram


The Dead Father  by Shaun Berke, 2014


M. : Have any particularly illuminating works of music, film, literature inspired your own work lately? Do you like to listen to anything as you paint?

Berke : Well, in Paris I was moved by a statue – a marble Athena brought tears to my eyes. I stood there for some time. In regards to inspiration, music tends to add to a particular atmosphere yes? So mostly medieval and folk, sonatas and such. This one metal band, Galdr, is really excellent; and their name refers to a practice that I first heard about at Nerdrunskolen from Jonas Landstad. What really astounds me is how Rachmaninov’s compositions never lose their potency; it is for all time. When I work in silence, I keep an ear out for the crows and ravens, sometimes I play bird calls for them. Literature is essential company – recently Kenneth Clark, Mikhail Bulgakov, and Edred Thorsson.


M. : Last year you were awarded a travel grant to Paris. Did the city of lights reveal any new treasures to you in it’s countless wonderful museums, palais, or churches? Tell about your time there!

Berke : The first afternoon, I had a walk, smoked a pipe, saw the leaves move across those wide boulevards. That night, I watched the blood moon from the sacred heart basilica. It was very exciting to get to see so many wonderful paintings and sculptures. I would gasp or exclaim or mutter to myself in coming across a work expected or unexpected. I would stand there, looking closely to see how it was painted. I had not realized how swiftly a horde will come and go, collecting token snapshots without even seeing. The daylight on a marble would shift slowly; the shadow cast would come alive as visitors hurried along through the light from the window. They missed it entirely. The lesser- known works tended to be from antiquity or else the middle ages. I hopped a fence to see a monument of Charlemagne; came across a lute player in the latin quarter; sang a song for the wanderer; found a font to send a soul; I drank wine and made some friends.


photo by Shaun Berke


Achilles the Jihad  by Shaun Berke, 2015

M. : What creative territory will you traverse next? What themes have you delved in to as of late?

Berke : Devotion and persecution are themes of some working paintings that feature beheadings; some allegorical, autobiographical paintings; the newest works are of comparative mythology for a future show with a certain someone. I look forward to announcing that one.


M. : …and finally, the burning question (just for the pleasure of it): name your favorite deity or character from mythology!

Berke : Prometheus and Sisyphus spring to mind from the greek pantheon; Svarog from slavonic; Koschei from russian folklore; Mimir, Groa, Surtr from norse, but it is the wanderer who is most dear to me, without a doubt– Old Harr, Harbard, Hangatyr, Valtyr, Hrafnagud, Alfodr – Odinn, father of the slain.


Adoration of the Magi  by Shaun Berke, 2015


Each Art must use its tools, each soul its body.” ~ Aristotle




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